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Un panel de passionnés de Bitcoin a mêlé humour et analyse pour discuter de l’investissement en Bitcoin, des dynamiques familiales, des défis d’adoption et de l’avenir des cryptomonnaies lors d’une conférence animée.
La session s’est ouverte sur un sondage humoristique des détenteurs de Bitcoin, révélant une forte présence de petits comme de grands investisseurs. Les animateurs, podcasteurs comiques, ont indiqué posséder plusieurs milliers de dollars en Bitcoin, soulignant son attrait transversal et le présentant comme une révolution contre les banques traditionnelles et la monnaie fiduciaire inflationniste.
Les intervenants ont partagé des anecdotes franches sur les difficultés liées au Bitcoin. L’un a subi une lourde perte après avoir hypothéqué sa maison pour en acheter, perdant logement et liens familiaux. Un autre a évoqué des tensions lors de funérailles à cause de son militantisme pro-Bitcoin. Ces récits illustrent les défis émotionnels et sociaux quand les convictions se heurtent à l’incompréhension des proches.
Les panélistes ont débattu des stratégies pour convaincre leurs proches d’investir. Parmi les réussites: acheter lors de hausses de prix et impliquer les décideurs familiaux, notamment les conjoints. Mais le consensus souligne une adoption lente, freinée par la volatilité et le scepticisme.
L’humour a émergé autour de l’idée d’offrir du Bitcoin, comme l’équivalent du prix de fleurs, ou de le comparer aux diamants en matière d’engagement durable. L’astrologie a même été évoquée, suggérant que la “naissance Capricorne” de Bitcoin en 2009 promet prospérité.
Le panel a reconnu que Bitcoin peut servir à de nombreux achats grâce à des infrastructures comme les terminaux Square, mais que son adoption reste limitée. Les utilisateurs rencontrent souvent du scepticisme. Certains encouragent à insister pour son acceptation, même si beaucoup estiment qu’il vaut mieux conserver ses bitcoins comme investissement.
Les participants ont partagé des heuristiques imparfaites, comme suivre les tendances des réseaux sociaux. Ils ont insisté sur la patience: les signaux haussiers apparaissent souvent quand l’intérêt public est faible. La détention à long terme est jugée essentielle.
La Réserve fédérale a été qualifiée avec humour de plus grand “rug pull” de l’histoire, traduisant une méfiance envers les banques centrales. Des projets comme EOS ont été cités comme échecs notables. Le panel estime que la régulation pourrait limiter les abus, tout en restant méfiant envers les autorités centralisées.
La discussion a abordé l’idée d’enregistrer des données sensibles sur blockchain, comme certains dossiers controversés. Les limites techniques, dont le problème des oracles, ont été soulignées, avec prudence quant à l’usage de Bitcoin comme base de données. Toutefois, son caractère incensurable est vu comme précieux pour les lanceurs d’alerte.
La corrélation avec les marchés boursiers a été discutée, certains estimant que les actions deviennent plus volatiles tandis que Bitcoin pourrait servir de réserve de valeur. Le panel anticipe que la hausse future des prix atténuera les tensions personnelles liées à sa volatilité.
Des éléments ont été partagés sur la présence de Bitcoin dans l’espace, avec des nœuds spatiaux et le satellite Blockstream permettant des transactions sans internet. Des anecdotes ont illustré ses liens avec l’innovation et l’exploration.
Le risque théorique du piratage via l’informatique quantique a été évoqué: lointain mais sérieux. Des solutions résistantes sont en développement. Les intervenants ont insisté sur des pratiques de sécurité strictes.
La discussion était ponctuée de références comiques et de slogans (“Not your keys, not your coins”), reflétant l’esprit irrévérencieux de la communauté. Des théories ludiques sur Satoshi illustrent le mélange de mythe et de réalité.
Le conseil central: toujours contrôler ses clés privées. La garde par des tiers expose à des pertes ou à la censure, en accord avec la philosophie décentralisée de Bitcoin.
L’événement s’est conclu sur l’annonce d’une conférence à Nashville en juillet 2027, célébrant la croissance de Bitcoin et la solidarité de sa communauté.
La conférence met en lumière le potentiel d’investissement, l’innovation technologique et la culture unique de Bitcoin, tout en soulignant les défis d’adoption et la responsabilité individuelle. Malgré les difficultés, la communauté reste confiante dans son avenir à long terme.
Now, can we get a round of applause in the crowd if you own Bitcoin? >> So, it looks like we came to the right place. Let's get a round of applause if you own more than one Bitcoin. >> Little bashful. Little bashful. >> Now, they're just bragging. I'm Ryan and this is Danny. When they asked us to do this conference, I said we want 20 Bitcoin a piece and 30% of Michael Sailor's yacht. They said, "No, it's a bare market." But we were able to acquire 34 shares of a little company called Nakamoto. Let's go. Bit of a nest egg. Bit of a nest egg. And the reason they made that deal is because who's better to talk about Bitcoin than two comedian podcasters who own upwards of four digits of Bitcoin USD combined. Now, I'm sure everyone here has been in a situation where people in your life don't want to hear about Bitcoin. Am I right? I was in a situation recently. I was explaining that Bitcoin is a revolution fighting against a corrupt banking system. And if Jerome Powell was here right now, I would smash his fucking teeth in when I was told that my uncle Frank's funeral was not the right place or time for that 10-hour speech. Now, my uncle Frank may have died of cancer, but the real cancer is endless money printing. And that's what I screamed as I was dragged out of the funeral, ripping my favorite sleeveless hotel t-shirt, knocking over my PowerPoint projector, and then banning me from Uncle Frank's wake. Luckily, Uncle Frank's wake didn't have security. I was able to sneak in and finish EXPLAINING TO UNCLE FRANK'S wife the lesson that she just should have learned about scarcity. It is not a coincidence that now that there is zero Uncle Franks, everyone wants him more. And if the government could just print Uncle Frank's, then Uncle Frank would be worthless. Just like the fiat trash that Uncle Frank left his family in the will. Now, as I came to from being knocked unconscious from my central bank bootlicker cousin, I realized that I'm the only hodler in this whole fucking family. probably what gave Uncle Frank cancer leading to his demise. Now, you're probably wondering what the moral of this story is. The moral is that you can lead a horse to Bitcoin, but what you cannot do is make Uncle Frank's paper hands grieving widow ape the fuck in. Let's go. >> That's right. That's right. And I too have experienced some hardship in my quest to become a whole coiner. Yep. >> Few years ago, I took out a second mortgage in order to buy Bitcoin with moderate leverage 20 times. And now, instead of being a whole coiner, I'm a zero houseer. Yeah. And a zero wifer, much to my surprise. AND WHILE I'M MISERABLE, Sheila and her pathetic new Fiat millionaire boyfriend who drives a Porsche Boxster are happier than they ever been. But they won't be for long as Jerome Powell DEBASES THE CURRENCY. AND I debase myself by showing up to their house one last time to explain to them how many Satoshi's I've been stacking. And that if we could just take a Roth IRA and put it all into Bitcoin instead of splitting it as adjudicated by the courts, David wouldn't have to pay for my son's leg lengthening surgery. And maybe the two of them could learn to love me once again. But it seems like it's going to take severe hyperinflation in order for her to even return my calls. Women, am I right? Spoken like a true bull. >> Oh, Ryan, I'm such a bull. Check out this Craigslist ad I posted. We'll have sex with your wife for $25. Sorry. No, that's the wrong one. That's the wrong one. >> That's the wrong No, I have a Bitcoin one. Oh, no. HERE'S THE BITCOIN ONE. WE'LL HAVE SEX WITH YOUR WIFE for 20,000 Satoshi's. >> Now we're talking. >> That's the one. I'm a bull. I'm a bull. talking and we are happy to be here at the Venetian. I was actually with my wife in the lobby earlier. Someone came up to me and invited us to a key party. I said, "I'm not going to any party where I have to bring my Bitcoin keys." >> No. >> My wife went without me. She spent the night there. She's still there now. And I hope she's having a good time. With that being said, WE ARE GOING TO BRING OUT OUR PANEL. ARE YOU GUYS HYPED? ARE YOU GUYS EXCITED? ALL RIGHT, let's bring them out. FIRST UP, WE HAVE THE CEO of Bit Insurance. Please put your hands together for Chris Cedor. Following him, we have from the Hell Money podcast, Aaron Redwing. And finally, the CEO and CTO of River, Alexander Leeman. Everybody, so happy to be here. Alex, before the show we were chatting, you mentioned that you thought Bitcoin was a scam. Do you still think that? >> Whoa, whoa, that was supposed to be off the record, right? Yeah, I mean you did have 10 whisies so you know sometimes things get sad. >> Now we have a few questions. First I will just talk. You may have heard our speech. We've all been in a situation where we want our family to sell the Roth IRA, unload the retirement, invested in Bitcoin, they don't want to listen. How do you get your family to understand the importance of Bitcoin? We're going to start with you Chris. I mean you just live it and then they will see how you know you're not outperforming inflation and essentially sooner or later you know four or five years they will see they will see >> but it takes five years >> maybe six. >> What if they don't have five years to live? >> Well then you better be in their will. >> I mean for me the answer is you know I'm I'm the Bitcoiner in my relationship. So you have to get the wife to get into Bitcoin first and then let her handle all of the finances. So, I think that's the only strategy that works. >> That's the opposite of what Danny's experienced. >> That is quite the opposite. Yeah. What about you, Alex? >> Uh, yeah, for me it was convincing my mom. Um, and honestly, really, I think just uh timing it right. I said, "Hey, you guys should buy some Bitcoin." And the price started going up and they were like, "Sign me up." >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Easy as that. >> That doesn't work the other way around, though, when you get them to buy and then the price goes down. >> Yeah. >> To buy the top. Yes. We both bought at 125. We dollar >> 125. >> 1255. Is that good? >> I think that's like where Nakamoto bought all their Bitcoin, too. So, I think you're in really good hand. >> Yeah. Okay, >> that's good. And so, I have a question. You know, this is kind of more of like a realworld application, right? So, women love gifts, right? So what I like to do with my ex-wife is instead of giving her flowers, I would give her the dollar value of the flowers in Bitcoin, right? She hated it. So my question is, how can I convince a woman that Bitcoin is the future of money? And if the three of you could please use girl math and show your work. >> I can explain that clearly because that's a question I understand. Well, >> diamonds are forever. Satoshi's are even more forever. So obviously that's the best gift. >> Best gift. Okay. So maybe like a hard drive on a ring. >> A hard drive like an open dime softer wallet. Yeah. >> Yeah. Just like a thumb. >> It's very romantic. >> Maybe a thumb drive on like a necklace. >> Yeah, maybe. Um No, honestly, uh the the thing the thing that got me into Bitcoin was astrology. And that's that's been the main >> Which is like Bitcoin for women. >> Exactly. It's a you know, economics is like boy pseudocience. Astrology is like girl pseudocience. Right. So, you just have to show your wife the Bitcoin natal chart, that January 3rd, 2009 Genesis block, and say, "Oh my gosh, Bitcoin is a Capricorn. It's totally going to make it." >> And and what are astrology telling us about the future price of Bitcoin? >> July 2026 looking pretty good. It's uh kind of like down from there. >> Okay. >> So, sorry, just letting you all know. So, get in while you can and then get out while you can. >> I've been telling people for years that you'll be able to use Bitcoin as the new money. Um, even now recently I went to a burger place told tried to buy stuff with Bitcoin. I got into an altercation. He started yelling at me, "This isn't a burger place. Please put your clothes back on." When will Bitcoin be the new money? >> It is, >> but like when can we use it everywhere? >> I mean, Jack Dorsey, he has like 4 million Square terminals like in the United States. You can use it everywhere. Every good and service you can purchase for Bitcoin these days. >> Yeah. If you have a merchant that you know has a square terminal, you can go there and sort of like harass the poor barista there and say like hey I I was told on the internet on Twitter that I can pay in Bitcoin here and they can be like sir again it's the can you please get out of here? This is not a burger joint. >> I think we have a ways to go. >> I think it's going to be a while >> but in the meantime you need to be more aggressive with cash. >> Exactly. Really the the the problem is we're not aggressive enough when checking when buying our coffee and like you know telling the minimum wage employees that they need to learn to accept Bitcoin. >> Sure. Holding up the line. >> Yeah, holding up the line. And do you even want to buy stuff with Bitcoin? >> You know, most Bitcoin maximalists do not in my experience. >> Well, I mean, I think the short answer is really um I think it's going to get more popular. It's just going to I think really block is leading the charge with the square terminals and it's just going to take time to normalize that and like people in my last presentation I showed a slide showing all the the globe with gold dots for every business accepting Bitcoin and that that's accelerating a lot. Um, so I really, but I think we're only at tens of thousands of businesses. We're not, you know, we need an order of magnitude to go before anyone is like, oh yeah, I've, you know, that's kind of normal now. So, it's going to just take some time. But to your point, like, do you want to spend it? Like, it's an asset that has a kaga of like 30 60% a year. You would assume it's better to just hoard it and amass it, but I personally believe you need to spend and replace. Otherwise, it's just like a shiny rock. It's no better than gold. So, you need to use or some people need to use it as money and we're moving towards that. I think >> now we've been talking a lot of Bitcoin mumbo jumbo. Can we cut this shit for a second? We're all just hoping the number goes up. >> No, boo. Ryan, come on. >> Well, this is when you are buying, if you guys can give me tips. What I like to do is I buy Bitcoin. Whenever I see people I went to high school with tweeting about it a lot, a lot of Facebook posts. Whenever I see Dave Portoi is gonna be day trading for days on ends, I usually think this is a buy sign. This is about to go to the moon. >> Yeah, >> Portnoi is a top signal. I would disagree. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> Really? That's I would have thought the other way around. >> May explain our poor performance. >> Yeah. And because like I normally like to buy Bitcoin when the Google search is the Google search result is the highest it's ever been. >> Yeah. There's nowhere else to go but up, >> right? That's how I figured out. So, >> I think you guys should sell trading classes. I think you should do a trading course and sell subscriptions. >> We have uh they all asked for their money back. >> Yeah, we're currently in some legal trouble for that. But, uh >> what are some top and bottom signs? >> Well, for me, a good bottom sign is everyone's uh no one's talking about it and the room's kind of empty and bye bye bye >> crickets. But but in all seriousness, you know, if you look at who is doing really well in the bull markets, it's people who prepared when everyone else wasn't paying attention and things were quiet. >> Yeah. >> So, we have some questions here that were written for us by the Bitcoin conference and they've forced us to ask these. >> Yeah. Yeah. We didn't write these. They said specifically, can you please ask the panelists these questions? First up, um, out of Hawk Tua, Javier Malay, and Melania Trump, who's the greatest crypto rug puller of all time, and do you think there needs to be any regulation? >> So, uh, none of the above. It's the FEDERAL RESERVE. >> FEDERAL OH, NOW WE'RE TALKING. YOU HEAR THAT, J. POWELL? EAT SHIT. >> YEAH, you really can't find. I mean, that's the that's the correct answer. >> Well, I'll do a different one. For for Bitcoin or crypto specifically, I would say EOS. Uh they they they were a coin that was really popular years ago and got people to give them a bunch of Bitcoin in return for their new coin and just kind of like worked on it for a little bit and stopped working on it and now they now they're sitting on one of the biggest Bitcoin stacks in the world. >> Okay, cool. >> He bought a very nice house in Sicily last so like $100 million. So the money went somewhere good, you know. >> Okay. Yeah, cuz my mother lost so much money on Hawkua coin and I just keep telling her bottoming is a process and it's time in the market, not timing the market. >> You have a lot of experience with bottoming I would assume. >> Wow. Shots fired. Banger from the astrolog. This is also written again by the Bitcoin conference. Both our wives have been having sex with other men behind our back. most of which are fiat slaves. Problem is, they've denied this. Could women's lying be solved by having women's sexual history ledgered on the blockchain? If not, what could be there? >> I I think you would run into the oracle problem. You know, that's the only thing preventing this. >> What's what's the oracle problem? >> You have a a centralized authority that, you know, the only interface between the real world and the digital world is energy. That's why proof of work is the only thing that works. All the other things have like some central database editor and >> but what if there was like a worldcoin orb that was watching >> Oh yeah >> and a test you know maybe maybe something there. >> Yeah. Just cuz here's the thing my body count is super high but nobody ever believes me. So this actually would kind of help me out. >> Anyone who doesn't think Danny's had sex with a lot of women you could come not see me after the show because you have a problem with me now. >> Yeah. Thanks Ryan. Could the Epstein files or something like that be on the blockchain? >> You know, they did actually inscribe uh many of the Wikileaks documents onto Bitcoin. So, you know, Bitcoin is uncensorable, right? So, anything that you put onto it can't be removed. So, uh I would like to see whistleblowers using this technology more to be honest. I think it's a it's a really good power to uh fight that kind of authoritarianism. So, >> it's kind of cool. >> Bitcoin is for money. It's not a database. >> It's both. >> Oh, is this is this like a schism? That's a skill. >> Like, stop putting your info on my Bitcoin. >> Yeah. Don't JPEG on my note, please. >> She's the person drawing on a dollar bill that you fold up and the planes there. >> Yes, she puts the Mickey Mouse on the dollar. >> And why is that a problem? Why don't you like that? Is it like sullying the reputation of Bitcoin? Is it making it unserious? >> Can it be less serious? I mean, >> I mean, it doesn't do anything to my node. My node has been running fine for like a decade. So, >> okay. I mean, there's some pretty disgusting stuff on there. >> Yeah, but you don't have to look at it. Like, you don't have to search for it. So, >> but some of us can't help it. >> Yeah, but we can't put some memes on your node. >> Oh, I have put memes on the node. But they were good memes. You know, >> good memes. >> I I get to decide that. >> Ah, gotcha. >> Just to close out that topic, can we get a round of applause from anyone in the audience? If you want to actually put your hand up if you're in the audience and you are on the Epstein Files. >> For those watching at home, there's about 95 hands up right now. Lot of hands. >> Lot of hands going up. That's >> some of the promises that we've been telling people about Bitcoin have not panned out. I'll let Danny continue. >> Um, so here's a question. People talk about Bitcoin decoupling from the stock market, right? So far, it has only decoupled my relationship with my wife and child. Will Bitcoin ever decouple from equities? Does it need to? And final question, how do I get to see my family again >> in the next bull market? I think they will contact you. >> They'll contact you. >> Yeah, you have to wait for 100k. You can't see your your wife isn't interested until 100k. >> I disagree. Okay, we've had some problems, but they always come back. >> You know, I think in terms of decoupling Bitcoin from the stock market, it seems like the stock market has completely decoupled from reality. That's what's actually happening. Like I think we we think in Bitcoin world that like oh, Bitcoin is going to mature. It's going to become more like traditional finance. It's going to become more uh less volatile. And what's actually happened is the opposite. Like the stock market in traditional finance has gone completely wild west. It's worse than crypto at this point. It's like a complete like wild west. >> So the stock market is the new Bitcoin >> and Bitcoin's the new stock market. >> The stock market is the new hawk to a coin. Gotcha. >> Alex. >> Yeah. >> How can I see my family? >> Yeah. I mean, I I think that um what we're seeing in the stock market is uh people sort of the like the fiat system breaking, the dollar not meaning anything anymore, and people just driving into whatever is giving them some hope for the future. Um and right now that's AI and maybe space stuff. Um whereas Bitcoin is kind of serving as this relatively, you know, compared to the stock market, stable store of value. And I think that what I agree with Aaron. I think what we're going to see is like, you know, Bitcoin will reliably build wealth over the long term. The stock market is kind of like, >> okay, let me pitch you something. AI Bitcoin in space. >> Well, >> I think you got like probably $10 million of VC funding audience. >> SpaceX owns Bitcoin. >> Yeah. >> And as an AI company, >> but how do we get the Bitcoin in space? >> I mean, we have the blockstream satellite. We have nodes in space. We can send a Bitcoin transaction without internet. >> All right. >> There's a little bit of lore actually that I don't think anyone knows. I have a friend who used to work at NASA and he actually sent a Bitcoin private key to space years ago. >> Really? >> So Bitcoin has already been to space. >> What many don't know, Aaron also worked at NASA. >> That's true. >> Yeah. Oh, you did? >> Yeah. Before I was an astrologer, I was an astronomer. So >> Oh, wow. >> Wait, you went from astronomer to astrologer? >> That's the pipeline. >> Is is that how you got the boot from NASA? You started getting into too much astrology. >> No, I I went from astronomer to astrologer to Bitcoiner. So, you know, >> left a good job for a fake job. What a trip. And I >> her parents were really proud. >> People talk about Bitcoin being a hedge against inflation. But in October 2025, I bought nine Bitcoin, highly levered. And the only thing it did hedge against was my ability to pay rent. My ability to make bail after I got t caught dining and dashing at Applebee's. My ability to get taken off the no-fly list for uttering what some have described as xenophobic language to the pilot on Spirit Airlines. My ability to not start the day with a six-ack of Miller Highife. My ability to not get kicked out of my stepdad's studio apartment for drinking his Miller High Life. And my ability to not get served a summon for my alleged involvement in January 6th. Patriot. With all that being said, what does Bitcoin hedge against? >> Fear at the basement, but you have to lower your time preference. >> It's an option on a hedge against inflation. >> Option on a hedge against inflation. >> Alex, do you use Bitcoin to hedge against inflation? >> Absolutely. I think Bitcoin is a hedge against inflation. It's also a um it's it's to me it's also a hedge on um uh you know your time, right? It's like I think Bitcoin is this reliable thing to put your wealth in and not spend your time paying attention to the like insane financialization of everything else and focus on the one thing you do really well in life that actually produces value. And that's one of the main benefits of Bitcoin people don't talk about much. And it's a hedge against author authorities like you can have free speech only if you have free money and Bitcoin gives you this uncensoral power that you can send a transaction and nobody no government can stop it. We see this in America. We see this in Iran. So it's a hedge against authorities. >> Now why can't we just make our own Bitcoin? >> You can. It will suck but you can. >> I think you guys should try it. I think you have something here. >> You think so? Well, that's funny because we did. Okay. >> Look under your seats >> earlier. Can we get a round of applause? >> Yeah. For start your own Bitcoin. >> We started our own Bitcoin. Thank you very much. If anyone's interested in getting it on the ground floor, let me just pull up the contract address. It is EG2 Y. >> You're going to want to write this down. to a Q all upper Q. You know what? Actually, some of these are caps and this might be case sensitive. So, if anyone's interested, uh, just find me after. I'll give it to you personally. Thanks. Yeah. >> I just want to say we actually followed Michael Sailor to the bathroom and pitched him our new project, which I'm pretty sure he took a peek at our dick. Michael >> Michael Sailor said no. And I just looked him in the face and I said, "Well, Michael Sailor, that's the biggest mistake you ever made in your life because you just created a hundred Michael Sailors." >> Oh, yeah. And look, we weren't going to do this. I I know we said we weren't going to do this. >> You're not. >> So, we weren't going to do this. And event organizers specifically asked us not to do this, but I think we're going to do this. We're I'm announcing right now our own Bitcoin Treasury company called Macro Strategy. Hear me out. Any money you give us, we will invest in our Bitcoin which is on uh Solana. I don't know what that is, but uh it's cash only. Cash only. But here's the pitch. Okay. >> Micro Strategy has what right now around 800,000 Bitcoin, right? >> Macro Strategy currently holds, get this, >> 77 million of our bitcoins. So the question is, would you rather be macro or micro? Guys, would you rather be macro or micro? >> The the people are spoken. Macro strategy it is. >> To be honest, you guys are GIVING ME MICRO VIBES. >> OH, WOW. >> Small macro energy. And I hate to break it to you. Like Michael Sailor also owns the domain macro strategy. He came prepared. He sue you to smithetheriness. >> I'm looking at my astrology right now, my horoscope, and it says Leo packing heat. How do you explain that? >> Yeah, >> you're actually a Leo. >> Sure. Yeah. You want to give us a re You want to give us a cold reading? >> What? So, Leo and >> Sagittarius. >> Okay, that explains a lot. Yeah. A lot of a lot of hot air going on over here. >> Yeah. >> What are you? >> I'm also a Leo. >> Of course you are. >> Of course. >> Of course. >> YEAH, I SAW SAW THAT a mile away. >> I go, that's a Leo if I've ever seen one in my life. Now, uh, on the topic of hacking, some people are saying that Bitcoin encryption can be hacked by quantum computers. As someone who has been hacked before, revealing personal details of my discreet visits with Dr. Sherman's penis enlargement clinic, which I went to for research also before the whole macro strategy thing. Is this something people should be worried about? >> No. >> Big no. Seems like you might have something personally to worry about, but you know, I'm not I'm not worried about it personally. >> Quantum Alex Quantum. Um, I don't think we need to worry, but I think we should be prudently researching and getting ahead of a potential long-term risk there. >> Prudently, but not Alex. Prudently. >> Not what? >> No. Okay, then we get it. >> Um, yeah. So, I I I think so so so the short answer is no. The longer answer is um there's great research happening uh with you know with Blockstream and other developers uh working towards having something if this were to be a problem. So um you know I think that's a a good work to be doing even >> what is exactly the problem if it comes >> well I mean the the the concern is that if a quantum computer which we probably are pretty far from that ever ex having exist and it's still an open question if they can ever really be viable um could theoretically break allow allow somebody who has that computer to steal your keys your private keys. Well, just so everybody knows, uh, our Bitcoin on macro strategy cannot be hacked. >> Oh, amazing. Quantum. >> Wow. >> You take a lot of security protocols. >> Oh, I take a lot of security protocols. And on the topic of hacking, uh, I just want to say, so I take a lot of security protocols whenever I cyber with my current girlfriend for money. I insist she says Kim Jong-un is gay and also that I'm a good boy who finishes in the exactly right amount of time. He does. >> How do you stay safe from hackers? Erin. >> Um, so are you worried about the cyber girlfriend being a hacker? Is that >> That's why I make her say Kim Jong-un is gay. Yes. >> Right. Cuz she would never say that. >> Cuz if she's a North Korean hacker, she's not allowed to say that. >> Yeah. I think you I mean, you probably got to prepare a couple more lines like that. So, make sure you cover all your bases, >> cuz you know, it's not the only country that can be sort of targeting you. But yeah, I think I think you're on to something, >> guys. I think it is time for the lightning round. >> Ding ding ding ding round. All right. Again, this was provided uh by the the conference. So, uh fuck Mary kill Bitcoin. Jim Kramer, Peter Schiff. We'll start with you, Chris. >> I would marry Bitcoin. I would kill was it Jim Kramer? >> Jim Kramer and Peter Schiff. >> Oh, Peter Schiff. >> Tough one. I know. >> That's That's tough. Marry Bitcoin, kill Jim Graemer. And you know, of course, Peter Schiff, I think he's cute, you know. >> Yeah. Same answer. I mean, obviously everyone here, I think, is going to say Merry Bitcoin. You kind of set us up for that. Um, so really it's just like a question of who you want to fuck. It's >> fucking Jim Kramer or killing Jim Kramer. >> Yeah, exactly. And I mean, I got to fuck Peter Schiff. >> Okay, Alex. Yeah. You know, I'm I'm going to switch it up a little. I'll do um you know uh Bitcoin Jim Kramer. Peter Schiff. I I think Jim Kramer, you know, I think he'd be a fun guy to talk to every day. >> Yeah. >> You know, I think he'd bring me energy. Yeah. You know, and I like, you know, just imagine you walk around and there's sound effects playing every day in your house, you know, like mad mad money. >> I hire your dude. >> Yeah. And I would I would personally fuck Jim Kramer just cuz be a bit of a change from the last 10 years of him fucking me. I would marry Bitcoin and then of course we know what we're doing with Peter Schiff, right? I'd fuck Bitcoin, marry Bitcoin, and kill my uncle Frank's wife. >> There we go. >> Do you think Satoshi is Rick Moranis? Cuz we also haven't seen him since 2009. >> There's a theory that can be explored. I mean, the last four weeks we had like eight different Satoshi's. >> Yeah. >> Was true. >> There's an HBO documentary. >> Miranda is part of the CIA or uh >> could have been. Yeah, I think >> possible. >> He was in everything and now he's just gone. >> Very likely. >> Highly likely. >> Do you have any theories on who Satoshi might be? >> I have theories, but I you know, I think it's sort of a gentleman's agreement to not not public publicize them. >> Is that is that now that we're kind of Bitcoin guys, is that something we should know? >> Yeah. Are we are you going to tell us after? >> Are we supposed to not talk about this? >> We'll find out. You paint a very big target like a billion dollar target on somebody when you say that is Satoshi, >> right? >> I'm sure Rick probably shouldn't have said that we're Satoshi. >> You heard it here first. Peter ship is Satoshi. >> Uh I have a question. This is uh probably a little bit, you know, >> again from the Bitcoin conference. >> This is from the Bitcoin conference. I we didn't WRITE THESE. SO IN 2010, there was a guy who bought Papa John's pizza for 10,000 Bitcoin. Do you think he should be allowed to say the n-word even once? >> Well, >> he's probably pretty mad. >> Ask the German. Ask the Let the German answer. >> No, let's let's put this racially loaded question onto the German. I'm going to, you know, abstain. And uh >> I think we need to ask J Jesse Jackson. I think, you know, >> a question. Does the alignment of Jupiter and Mars think that he should be able to say the N word? >> Oh, no. No. Yeah. >> Now, this has been an amazing >> So, the n word is no coiner. What was the n word, by the way? >> No coiner. >> No coiner. I know you can say that. >> The real nword is no coin. >> YEAH, WE'RE AT THE BITCOIN. WAIT, WHAT did you think we were talking about? >> Oh, no. Let's not get into that. No. >> Oh, wow. >> Okay. >> Now, we want to thank our fantastic panel. And most importantly, for amateurs such as ourselves or anyone else in the crowd, what is the biggest takeaway? What did we miss? What should we learn if we're a Bitcoin for dummies subject? >> Yeah, Bitcoin inside. >> Bitcoin inside custody and not your keys. >> NOT YOUR COINS, YOU DOPES. >> WOW. >> GUYS, I want to be honest. We've been trying with you and you've been giving us nothing and we're not really happy about it. >> Not too pumped. >> Um, >> this was the worst 34 shares of Nakamoto I've ever performed for. >> Yeah, me too. >> Uh, Bitcoin is the technology for the dawning of the age of Aquarius. So, if you believe in bullshit like that, you should probably own some, >> guys. If you BELIEVE IN BULLSHIT, BUY BITCOIN. You heard it right here. >> I think um I'll second Chris. Uh Bitcoin and self-custody is very important. It's really important that you um know what to do with your Bitcoin if you can't if you don't trust the institutions anymore. >> All right. Very well said. >> Thank you so much for coming on this panel. Thank you for everyone that came to see our panel this early in the day. 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